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Michael Eletise (2016 OL, Honolulu)

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  • Rosterbating:

    LT: Trey Adams
    LG: Henry Roberts
    C: Jesse Sosebee
    RG: Michael Eletise
    RT: Kaleb McGary

    What? No Wattenberg?
    CokeGreaterThanPepsiDennis_DeYoungSarkingham
  • It's weird to have options! I put Sosebee at C over Twattenberg. And we still have other guys who are really intriguing not even on the list.
    RoadDawg55Dennis_DeYoungSarkingham
  • Dennis_DeYoungDennis_DeYoung Posts: 11,537
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    Rosterbating:

    LT: Trey Adams
    LG: Henry Roberts
    C: Jesse Sosebee
    RG: Michael Eletise
    RT: Kaleb McGary

    Well, if you look how we would get there, it's kind of a weird sequence. Our OL roster is such a nightmare right now.

    So, currently we have something that looks like this (don't avert your gaze, be a man and take it):

    LT: Jake Eldrenkamp (Jr.)
    LG: Dexter Charles (Sr.)
    C: Sifa Tufunga (Sr.)
    RG: Shane Brostek (Jr.)
    RT: Coleman Shelton (So.)

    Basically all these guys either suck or probably suck.

    The bench is something ugly as sin like:

    T - Kaleb McGary (RFr.)
    G/T - Matt James (RFr.)
    G/T - Andrew Kirkland (So.)
    G - Jesse Sosebee (RFr.)
    G/C - Cory Fuavai (Jr.)
    G/C - Dane Crane (So.)
    G/C/T - John Turner (RFr.)

    Then you have the freshmen:

    T - Trey Adams
    T - Devin Burleson
    T - Jared Hilbers
    G - Henry Roberts

    After watching and paying attention in spring, my take is that we basically had 4 total OL on our roster that could be good, but most have caveats:

    1. Jesse Sosebee (he's the only guy without a caveat, just young).
    2. Kaleb McGary (never played OL before).
    3. Devin Burleson (never played football before).

    Oh crap, that's just three—worse than I thought.

    So, either we're going to take a LOT of growing pains and risk ruining young guys like McGary, Burleson, Adams or Roberts... we're going to have to wait until the jagoffs on our current line are done playing.

    So, in 2016 you might have:

    LT: Eldrenkamp (Sr.)
    LG: Jesse Sosebee (So.)
    C: (Crane/James/Turner)
    RG: Brostek (Sr)
    RT: Shelton (Jr.)

    The potential change here is that Shelton is so small, he might get moved inside and McGary could take over for him. However, unseating starters is just not tremendously usual and guys like Adams and Roberts (who come in with all the tools and pedigree) are far enough behind in years, they may have to sit for a while; while guys like McGary probably aren't ready to overtake guys like Shelton in practice (if that's the metric).

    So, really we're looking at 2017 (which I assume will be special, but it looks more like '18 from this) to get to a point where we have playing talent:

    LT - Trey Adams (So.)
    LG - Henry Roberts (So.)
    C - Crane/James/Shelton
    RG - Jesse Sosebee (Jr.)
    RT - McGary (Jr.)

    The line you're talking about is a 2018 line.

    RoadDawg55UWerentThereManSarkinghamSpoogeDawg
  • DooglesDoogles Posts: 6,126
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    Rosterbating:

    LT: Trey Adams
    LG: Henry Roberts
    C: Jesse Sosebee
    RG: Michael Eletise
    RT: Kaleb McGary

    Well, if you look how we would get there, it's kind of a weird sequence. Our OL roster is such a nightmare right now.

    So, currently we have something that looks like this (don't avert your gaze, be a man and take it):

    LT: Jake Eldrenkamp (Jr.)
    LG: Dexter Charles (Sr.)
    C: Sifa Tufunga (Sr.)
    RG: Shane Brostek (Jr.)
    RT: Coleman Shelton (So.)

    Basically all these guys either suck or probably suck.

    The bench is something ugly as sin like:

    T - Kaleb McGary (RFr.)
    G/T - Matt James (RFr.)
    G/T - Andrew Kirkland (So.)
    G - Jesse Sosebee (RFr.)
    G/C - Cory Fuavai (Jr.)
    G/C - Dane Crane (So.)
    G/C/T - John Turner (RFr.)

    Then you have the freshmen:

    T - Trey Adams
    T - Devin Burleson
    T - Jared Hilbers
    G - Henry Roberts

    After watching and paying attention in spring, my take is that we basically had 4 total OL on our roster that could be good, but most have caveats:

    1. Jesse Sosebee (he's the only guy without a caveat, just young).
    2. Kaleb McGary (never played OL before).
    3. Devin Burleson (never played football before).

    Oh crap, that's just three—worse than I thought.

    So, either we're going to take a LOT of growing pains and risk ruining young guys like McGary, Burleson, Adams or Roberts... we're going to have to wait until the jagoffs on our current line are done playing.

    So, in 2016 you might have:

    LT: Eldrenkamp (Sr.)
    LG: Jesse Sosebee (So.)
    C: (Crane/James/Turner)
    RG: Brostek (Sr)
    RT: Shelton (Jr.)

    The potential change here is that Shelton is so small, he might get moved inside and McGary could take over for him. However, unseating starters is just not tremendously usual and guys like Adams and Roberts (who come in with all the tools and pedigree) are far enough behind in years, they may have to sit for a while; while guys like McGary probably aren't ready to overtake guys like Shelton in practice (if that's the metric).

    So, really we're looking at 2017 (which I assume will be special, but it looks more like '18 from this) to get to a point where we have playing talent:

    LT - Trey Adams (So.)
    LG - Henry Roberts (So.)
    C - Crane/James/Shelton
    RG - Jesse Sosebee (Jr.)
    RT - McGary (Jr.)

    The line you're talking about is a 2018 line.

    You just ruined my I'm shit faced buzz.

    Dep re ssing
    Dennis_DeYoungCokeGreaterThanPepsiHFNY
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Posts: 23,353
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    The line you're talking about is a 2018 line.

    :( Trombone
    DooglesDennis_DeYoungCokeGreaterThanPepsiSarkingham
  • FTR, Shelton was moved to center before spring, and then he got hurt and didn't practice. He makes much more sense as a C.
    RoadDawg55Dennis_DeYoungdrogginsSarkingham
  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Posts: 18,405
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    Who was the last stud OL UW had? Kelemete's hype was more based off his athleticism vs being really good. If we go further back, the same was basically true for Khalif Barnes, although he was injured for almost his entire senior year.

    You can get away with having one Colin Tanigawa, average OL type starting. You can't get away with 5 of them like UW tried the past 4 or 5 years. Some like to pretend the Riva and Dexter Charles are/were good, but they weren't any better than an average Pac 12 lineman. I won't even go back to the Ty era because they were a disaster then.
  • TequillaTequilla Posts: 12,612
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    Many forget here that you don't need OL to run the bubble screen
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  • Dennis_DeYoungDennis_DeYoung Posts: 11,537
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    Who was the last stud OL UW had? Kelemete's hype was more based off his athleticism vs being really good. If we go further back, the same was basically true for Khalif Barnes, although he was injured for almost his entire senior year.

    You can get away with having one Colin Tanigawa, average OL type starting. You can't get away with 5 of them like UW tried the past 4 or 5 years. Some like to pretend the Riva and Dexter Charles are/were good, but they weren't any better than an average Pac 12 lineman. I won't even go back to the Ty era because they were a disaster then.

    Our last good offensive lineman was actually a tie: Olson and Kreutz in '97. I can't name a guy since then I would really like to have back.

    Also, anyone who pretends Dexter Charles is good should be raped.
    dncSarkingham
  • DooglesDoogles Posts: 6,126
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    Kelemete starting for the Cardinals tells me he was good. Khalif barnes is good by virtue of starting in the nfl as long as he has, however he's not a "holy shit let's anchor our line around him" kinda guy. More of a "he's good enough to work with and the udfa from Cornell behindhim will get abused at this level" kinda guy.

    We'll never know how much help Riva could have been. Maybe he springs Dwayne "goat fuck" washington for a few more tds.
    dncwhatshouldicareaboutHFNYAtomicDawg
  • Who was the last stud OL UW had? Kelemete's hype was more based off his athleticism vs being really good. If we go further back, the same was basically true for Khalif Barnes, although he was injured for almost his entire senior year.

    You can get away with having one Colin Tanigawa, average OL type starting. You can't get away with 5 of them like UW tried the past 4 or 5 years. Some like to pretend the Riva and Dexter Charles are/were good, but they weren't any better than an average Pac 12 lineman. I won't even go back to the Ty era because they were a disaster then.

    Our last good offensive lineman was actually a tie: Olson and Kreutz in '97. I can't name a guy since then I would really like to have back.

    Also, anyone who pretends Dexter Charles is good should be raped.
    Chad Ward?
    dncDennis_DeYoungwhatshouldicareaboutDardanusTTJ
  • dncdnc Posts: 28,830
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    Who was the last stud OL UW had? Kelemete's hype was more based off his athleticism vs being really good. If we go further back, the same was basically true for Khalif Barnes, although he was injured for almost his entire senior year.

    You can get away with having one Colin Tanigawa, average OL type starting. You can't get away with 5 of them like UW tried the past 4 or 5 years. Some like to pretend the Riva and Dexter Charles are/were good, but they weren't any better than an average Pac 12 lineman. I won't even go back to the Ty era because they were a disaster then.

    Our last good offensive lineman was actually a tie: Olson and Kreutz in '97. I can't name a guy since then I would really like to have back.

    Also, anyone who pretends Dexter Charles is good should be raped.
    Maybe no individual that I'd love to have back, but I'd take the whole 2000 OL wiff a bullet.
    RoadDawg55TTJSarkingham
  • DooglesDoogles Posts: 6,126
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    Doogles said:

    Kelemete starting for the Cardinals tells me he was good. Khalif barnes is good by virtue of starting in the nfl as long as he has, however he's not a "holy shit let's anchor our line around him" kinda guy. More of a "he's good enough to work with and the udfa from Cornell behindhim will get abused at this level" kinda guy.

    We'll never know how much help Riva could have been. Maybe he springs Dwayne "goat fuck" washington for a few more tds.

    He doesn't start for the Cardinals and was cut after his rookie season. But still.
    Get drunk, talk shit.
    RoadDawg55Dennis_DeYoungSarkinghamSpoogeDawg
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Posts: 23,353
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    Honolulu (Hawaii) Kaiser offensive lineman Michael Eletise did not get a ton of reps on Wednesday but the 6-foot-4, 313-pound guard from Hawaii made the most of his. Eletise was easily the most physical lineman on the day, throwing Antwuan Jackson to the ground on one rep. He keeps his feet moving on the interior and gets a great initial punch to not let the defender into his body.
    Doogles
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