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Your favorite example of armed patriots defeating tyranny in US History (post 1789)

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  • tenndawgtenndawg Posts: 1,098
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    Easy choice

    The Doors getting banned from The Ed Sullivan Show after Jim refused to change tbe "girl we couldn't get much higher" lyric from Light My Fire

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  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Posts: 3,541
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    tenndawg said:

    Easy choice

    The Doors getting banned from The Ed Sullivan Show after Jim refused to change tbe "girl we couldn't get much higher" lyric from Light My Fire

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    YBFE 10 Dog!! Not like the pussy Jagger who caved to the man.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Posts: 3,541
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    AZDuck said:

    Sledog said:

    AZDuck said:

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    Sledog said:
    Proves my point. The GIs broke into the National Guard armory to get military small arms because they were superior to their hunting rifles, had no heavy weapons and thus could not take the police station by storm despite having an overwhelming advantage of numbers, and felt they had to act quickly because they knew that real soldiers would likely arrive the next day.
    They got the job done.
    Sure! But it wasn't through the magic of the 2d Amendment. It was because of military training, discipline, and superior weapons looted from the local National Guard armory.

    In short, a "well-regulated militia."
    You should look up the definition sometime.
    Here is the language used in the Constitution regarding militias:

    First, consider the powers of Congress over the Militia:

    Article One

    Section 8

    "To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

    To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

    To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;"

    Next, consider the powers of the President over the Militia:

    Article Two

    Section 2

    "The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States;"

    Therefore, taking everything in the preceding discussion into consideration, that is the role of militias in the early history of the United States, including both before the Revolutionary War as well as the experiences of George Washington et al with the colonial militia during the War, and then also the parallels between the Articles of Confederation and the Constitution regarding the definition, role, and functioning of the militia, I think it safe to say that the following interpretation of the 2nd amendment, which is from an Originalist perspective, stands on fairly firm ground:

    The term “well regulated” in the 2nd amendment actually encompasses both meanings of the term “well regulated” (i.e., “well regulated” as one might consider a clock to be, and “well regulated” as one might think of in a legal framework)!

    “Well regulated” meant that State militias were to be well trained (i.e., they were to gather together and practice, drill, etc., on a regular basis) and that training was to be supervised by the States (i.e., the States were to appoint officers who were to oversee that training). (This was the clock-like aspect of "well regulated".)

    But at the same time, “well regulated” also referred to the lawful power the Congress (which was comprised, after all, of representatives of the States) was to have over the State militias, that is, Congress was to promulgate and enact a system of rules governing the conduct and/or activity of said militias, as well as the legal authority the President would have over them when acting as Commander-in-Chief. (This was the legal aspect of "well regulated".)

    In other words, the use of the term “well regulated” in the 2nd amendment wasn’t meant to be an ‘either-or’, ‘black-and-white’ proposition, it was meant to be an all-inclusive term that covered all possible aspects of the situation viz a viz militias.
    And the forbearer here came from the George Mason penned VA Declaration of Rights: That a well-regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.
    AZDuck
  • salemcoogsalemcoog Posts: 6,225
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    This thread is proof that the full blown aids has won.
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  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Posts: 3,541
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    salemcoog said:

    This thread is proof that the full blown aids has won.

    Where do you go in Salem to get your Aids medication?
    AZDuck
  • Why is the Civil War on that list when tyranny prevailed in that one?
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  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Posts: 5,353
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    Ergo! Concordantly! Vis a vis!
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  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Posts: 3,541
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    Why is the Civil War on that list when tyranny prevailed in that one?

    Oregon State won the Civil War last year.
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  • BearsWiinBearsWiin Posts: 2,301
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    dnc said:

    The liberation of Branch Dividian






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    dnc said:

    The liberation of Branch Dividian






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    David Koresh would win a Senate seat in Texas today.

    He just needed more tim.
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  • The Federal Government gained more power as a result of the Civil War. It gained the power to boss around the states. The only good that ever did was when it was used to make states abolish slavery. But hell, slavery was already on the way out. I'd say another 40-60 years and the states would have abolished slavery on their own, as was the trend at the time.

    But now we have a Federal Government that forces extra tax money out of people in every state, and then sends it back to the states with strings attached..."Hey Montana, want some tax revenue for your roads? No problem...but FIRST, we need you to lower your speed limit to 65." If the South would have won, we wouldn't have this fucking problem. But all you faggots can think about is "oh the poor slaves".
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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Posts: 25,757
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    If the slaves had guns no need for a civil war

    They were an unarmed populace that got fucked. Same with the Swayes, who had some arms but not enough when it would have mattered.

    Human history is littered with the powerful fucking the poor. Guns even the field.

    Keep worshiping your government and trust in them. They are on your side. Really

    Now lets pass another law that the law that wasn't followed in this case needs to be followed next time

    Case Closed

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  • AZDuckAZDuck Posts: 13,043
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    The Federal Government gained more power as a result of the Civil War. It gained the power to boss around the states. The only good that ever did was when it was used to make states abolish slavery. But hell, slavery was already on the way out. I'd say another 40-60 years and the states would have abolished slavery on their own, as was the trend at the time.

    But now we have a Federal Government that forces extra tax money out of people in every state, and then sends it back to the states with strings attached..."Hey Montana, want some tax revenue for your roads? No problem...but FIRST, we need you to lower your speed limit to 65." If the South would have won, we wouldn't have this fucking problem. But all you faggots can think about is "oh the poor slaves".

    I enjoyed this rant

    If the slaves had guns no need for a civil war

    They were an unarmed populace that got fucked. Same with the Swayes, who had some arms but not enough when it would have mattered.

    Human history is littered with the powerful fucking the poor. Guns even the field.

    Keep worshiping your government and trust in them. They are on your side. Really

    Now lets pass another law that the law that wasn't followed in this case needs to be followed next time

    Case Closed

    lol, no

    There was a fantastic slave revolt in South Carolina where the slaves had guns and numbers. Lost anyway.

    Slave revolts usually failed with or without guns due to the slaves' lack of knowledge of military tactics and organization.
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  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Posts: 5,353
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    AZDuck said:

    The Federal Government gained more power as a result of the Civil War. It gained the power to boss around the states. The only good that ever did was when it was used to make states abolish slavery. But hell, slavery was already on the way out. I'd say another 40-60 years and the states would have abolished slavery on their own, as was the trend at the time.

    But now we have a Federal Government that forces extra tax money out of people in every state, and then sends it back to the states with strings attached..."Hey Montana, want some tax revenue for your roads? No problem...but FIRST, we need you to lower your speed limit to 65." If the South would have won, we wouldn't have this fucking problem. But all you faggots can think about is "oh the poor slaves".

    I enjoyed this rant

    If the slaves had guns no need for a civil war

    They were an unarmed populace that got fucked. Same with the Swayes, who had some arms but not enough when it would have mattered.

    Human history is littered with the powerful fucking the poor. Guns even the field.

    Keep worshiping your government and trust in them. They are on your side. Really

    Now lets pass another law that the law that wasn't followed in this case needs to be followed next time

    Case Closed

    lol, no

    There was a fantastic slave revolt in South Carolina where the slaves had guns and numbers. Lost anyway.

    Slave revolts usually failed with or without guns due to the slaves' lack of knowledge of military tactics and organization.
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  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Posts: 7,964
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    Ruby Ridge. A clusterfuck of epic proportions.

    Janet Reno hit the holy trinity of dumbfuck between Ruby Ridge, The Branch Davidians and Elian Gonzales. What a courageous woman.

    Bitch.

    Swayepawz
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    If the slaves had guns no need for a civil war

    They were an unarmed populace that got fucked. Same with the Swayes, who had some arms but not enough when it would have mattered.

    Human history is littered with the powerful fucking the poor. Guns even the field.

    Keep worshiping your government and trust in them. They are on your side. Really

    Now lets pass another law that the law that wasn't followed in this case needs to be followed next time

    Case Closed

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  • SledogSledog Posts: 3,806
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    AZDuck said:

    Sledog said:
    Proves my point. The GIs broke into the National Guard armory to get military small arms because they were superior to their hunting rifles, had no heavy weapons and thus could not take the police station by storm despite having an overwhelming advantage of numbers, and felt they had to act quickly because they knew that real soldiers would likely arrive the next day.
    Someone in the crowd yelled, "Let's go get our guns," causing the crowd to head for the Essankay Garage.

    Some also went to the armory. Would have been much more efficient if they all had guns of their own.
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    Sledog said:

    AZDuck said:

    Sledog said:
    Proves my point. The GIs broke into the National Guard armory to get military small arms because they were superior to their hunting rifles, had no heavy weapons and thus could not take the police station by storm despite having an overwhelming advantage of numbers, and felt they had to act quickly because they knew that real soldiers would likely arrive the next day.
    Someone in the crowd yelled, "Let's go get our guns," causing the crowd to head for the Essankay Garage.

    Some also went to the armory. Would have been much more efficient if they all had guns of their own.
    The 60 who were under the direct command of Bill White got their guns at the armory. HTH.

    (I thought Bill White became the sheriff, until I looked again)
    MikeDamone
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