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  • 2001400ex2001400ex Posts: 12,215
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    RedRocket said:

    Tequilla said:

    RedRocket said:

    doogie said:

    The exodus of residents was most pronounced in New York, which saw about 190,000 people leave the state between July 1, 2016 and July 1, 2017, according to U.S. Census Bureau data released last week.

    But Wyoming had the largest exodus in percentage terms. The article also conveniently forgets about strong growth blue states like WA and OR and doesn't mention that NY and CA actually had population growth because of immigration. But yeah blue states are fucked. If doogie had any balls he would relocate from his liberal strong hold to a bible belt red state.
    If you don't think that Washington or Oregon aren't going to have similar problems in 20-30 years when all the liberals that are making a shit ton of money today realize that politicians are coming for their money down the road and decide that being a snow bird living in a state where they aren't going to touch their money ... then I can't fucking help you.
    Snowbirds would still pay property and sales tax in WA. The rich liberals would have to sell their houses and move entirely but it's not going to happen and it wouldnt matter anyways because there would just be a new post millennial generation that would fill the gap. Only reason this would change is if businesses left WA or OR in droves which I also don't see happening.
    Right. Washington, without an income tax, gives an incentive to have income here. Income tax in most states is way more than any property tax difference.
    MikeDamone
  • AZDuckAZDuck Posts: 13,881
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    edited December 2017
    Let's go to the data:

    Net Migration

      Year ending 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015
    1. Alabama 5,109 5,798 5,152 1,996 3,874
    2. Alaska 1,174 -974 -8,200 -5,355 -2,557
    3. Arizona 45,650 37,820 55,328 63,755 76,405
    4. Arkansas 2,127 1,541 387 2,506 3,530
    5. California 78,532 70,149 97,674 70,495 33,530
    6. Colorado 38,930 45,660 49,443 67,627 60,773
    7. Connecticut -3,715 -2,400 -10,383 -11,500 -12,822
    8. Delaware 5,685 5,656 6,409 6,647 5,583
    9. District of Columbia 9,997 9,665 4,710 7,122 6,392
    10. Florida 206,039 201,302 257,486 328,772 325,986
    11. Georgia 40,950 15,254 46,426 58,625 60,612
    12. Hawaii 5,442 5,991 2,318 1,837 -2,583
    13. Idaho 1,293 6,244 10,585 8,596 18,869
    14. Illinois -47,834 -42,196 -66,273 -73,614 -83,210
    15. Indiana -3,099 9,272 4,002 -4,612 -1,083
    16. Iowa 668 6,197 6,170 2,752 2,944
    17. Kansas 1,124 -6,716 -7,163 -6,596 -12,744
    18. Kentucky 2,868 3,998 1,540 251 3,305
    19. Louisiana 6,238 4,062 1,449 422 -5,020
    20. Maine 719 296 2,410 85 3,954
    21. Maryland 17,329 14,684 9,856 2,566 176
    22. Massachusetts 26,785 32,251 28,522 19,439 15,292
    23. Michigan -13,067 -9,437 -3,993 -15,801 -5,328
    24. Minnesota 3,207 10,176 6,989 1,612 11,882
    25. Mississippi -3,809 -2,160 -6,390 -10,959 -7,467
    26. Missouri -4,828 198 558 -722 2,163
    27. Montana 4,268 6,243 5,328 5,681 7,422
    28. Nebraska 2,996 3,168 1,907 1,470 2,043
    29. Nevada 19,802 19,562 30,773 36,103 41,967
    30. New Hampshire 912 -410 5,007 665 4,362
    31. New Jersey -3,140 -2,387 -6,167 -15,736 -16,704
    32. New Mexico -4,487 -8,358 -11,496 -10,769 -7,111
    33. New York -8,477 -5,525 -43,810 -40,962 -72,889
    34. North Carolina 54,468 57,116 54,435 63,825 80,078
    35. North Dakota 12,480 17,950 10,664 11,419 -4,684
    36. Ohio -20,472 -5,011 766 -11,799 -7,967
    37. Oklahoma 15,322 19,976 11,380 14,866 2,894
    38. Oregon 19,221 14,790 30,220 43,082 56,972
    39. Pennsylvania 11,730 -1,347 -1,535 -10,154 -10,887
    40. Rhode Island -1,248 -1,294 980 210 419
    41. South Carolina 32,487 34,167 45,062 53,376 52,844
    42. South Dakota 5,563 5,786 2,085 643 2,573
    43. Tennessee 36,677 22,233 32,830 31,783 39,959
    44. Texas 214,132 194,268 252,592 266,340 217,542
    45. Utah 4,601 10,952 4,607 14,387 25,412
    46. Vermont -909 241 -402 -1,264 -1,910
    47. Virginia 39,548 32,749 13,788 11,406 7,202
    48. Washington 35,407 36,165 50,252 68,590 91,981
    49. West Virginia 2,423 -1,494 -3,160 -4,878 -6,583
    50. Wisconsin -3,077 -911 -1,060 -7,545 -4,405
    51. Wyoming 5,835 3,012 -2,257 -59 -3,823
    http://www.governing.com/gov-data/census/state-migration-rates-annual-net-migration-by-state.html
    RedRocketMikeDamone
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Posts: 12,215
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    AZDuck said:

    Let's go to the data:

    Net Migration


      Year ending 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015
    1. Alabama 5,109 5,798 5,152 1,996 3,874
    2. Alaska 1,174 -974 -8,200 -5,355 -2,557
    3. Arizona 45,650 37,820 55,328 63,755 76,405
    4. Arkansas 2,127 1,541 387 2,506 3,530
    5. California 78,532 70,149 97,674 70,495 33,530
    6. Colorado 38,930 45,660 49,443 67,627 60,773
    7. Connecticut -3,715 -2,400 -10,383 -11,500 -12,822
    8. Delaware 5,685 5,656 6,409 6,647 5,583
    9. District of Columbia 9,997 9,665 4,710 7,122 6,392
    10. Florida 206,039 201,302 257,486 328,772 325,986
    11. Georgia 40,950 15,254 46,426 58,625 60,612
    12. Hawaii 5,442 5,991 2,318 1,837 -2,583
    13. Idaho 1,293 6,244 10,585 8,596 18,869
    14. Illinois -47,834 -42,196 -66,273 -73,614 -83,210
    15. Indiana -3,099 9,272 4,002 -4,612 -1,083
    16. Iowa 668 6,197 6,170 2,752 2,944
    17. Kansas 1,124 -6,716 -7,163 -6,596 -12,744
    18. Kentucky 2,868 3,998 1,540 251 3,305
    19. Louisiana 6,238 4,062 1,449 422 -5,020
    20. Maine 719 296 2,410 85 3,954
    21. Maryland 17,329 14,684 9,856 2,566 176
    22. Massachusetts 26,785 32,251 28,522 19,439 15,292
    23. Michigan -13,067 -9,437 -3,993 -15,801 -5,328
    24. Minnesota 3,207 10,176 6,989 1,612 11,882
    25. Mississippi -3,809 -2,160 -6,390 -10,959 -7,467
    26. Missouri -4,828 198 558 -722 2,163
    27. Montana 4,268 6,243 5,328 5,681 7,422
    28. Nebraska 2,996 3,168 1,907 1,470 2,043
    29. Nevada 19,802 19,562 30,773 36,103 41,967
    30. New Hampshire 912 -410 5,007 665 4,362
    31. New Jersey -3,140 -2,387 -6,167 -15,736 -16,704
    32. New Mexico -4,487 -8,358 -11,496 -10,769 -7,111
    33. New York -8,477 -5,525 -43,810 -40,962 -72,889
    34. North Carolina 54,468 57,116 54,435 63,825 80,078
    35. North Dakota 12,480 17,950 10,664 11,419 -4,684
    36. Ohio -20,472 -5,011 766 -11,799 -7,967
    37. Oklahoma 15,322 19,976 11,380 14,866 2,894
    38. Oregon 19,221 14,790 30,220 43,082 56,972
    39. Pennsylvania 11,730 -1,347 -1,535 -10,154 -10,887
    40. Rhode Island -1,248 -1,294 980 210 419
    41. South Carolina 32,487 34,167 45,062 53,376 52,844
    42. South Dakota 5,563 5,786 2,085 643 2,573
    43. Tennessee 36,677 22,233 32,830 31,783 39,959
    44. Texas 214,132 194,268 252,592 266,340 217,542
    45. Utah 4,601 10,952 4,607 14,387 25,412
    46. Vermont -909 241 -402 -1,264 -1,910
    47. Virginia 39,548 32,749 13,788 11,406 7,202
    48. Washington 35,407 36,165 50,252 68,590 91,981
    49. West Virginia 2,423 -1,494 -3,160 -4,878 -6,583
    50. Wisconsin -3,077 -911 -1,060 -7,545 -4,405
    51. Wyoming 5,835 3,012 -2,257 -59 -3,823
    http://www.governing.com/gov-data/census/state-migration-rates-annual-net-migration-by-state.html
    Look at those hordes of people moving into Kansas after the tax cuts.... Oh wait.
    MikeDamone
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Posts: 27,235
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    2001400ex said:

    Tequilla said:

    RedRocket said:

    doogie said:

    The exodus of residents was most pronounced in New York, which saw about 190,000 people leave the state between July 1, 2016 and July 1, 2017, according to U.S. Census Bureau data released last week.

    But Wyoming had the largest exodus in percentage terms. The article also conveniently forgets about strong growth blue states like WA and OR and doesn't mention that NY and CA actually had population growth because of immigration. But yeah blue states are fucked. If doogie had any balls he would relocate from his liberal strong hold to a bible belt red state.
    If you don't think that Washington or Oregon aren't going to have similar problems in 20-30 years when all the liberals that are making a shit ton of money today realize that politicians are coming for their money down the road and decide that being a snow bird living in a state where they aren't going to touch their money ... then I can't fucking help you.
    Washington State has the most regressive tax structure in the country.

    HTH
    Christ. Bookmark this. Hondo and I agree on something totally 100%.

    Property taxes and sales taxes should be slashed to 1/3 of present rates. Institute a third leg of revenue in a moderate income tax and abolish the B&O tax completely.

    Then institute special tax incentive zones/port districts in places like Spokane and Vancouver and Tri-Cities so businesses will relocate there instead of Oregon/Idaho and watch the motherfucking state take off to the stratosphere.

    Hondo doesn't agree with you though

    He wants to keep or raise property and sales and gas taxes while adding a punishing income tax and the BO as well

    Welcome to the Hotel California

    The one thing I have always been proud of Washington voters for is not falling for this ruse.
    Pitchfork51TierbsHsotBoobsTurdBufferEsophagealFeces
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Posts: 12,215
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    2001400ex said:

    Tequilla said:

    RedRocket said:

    doogie said:

    The exodus of residents was most pronounced in New York, which saw about 190,000 people leave the state between July 1, 2016 and July 1, 2017, according to U.S. Census Bureau data released last week.

    But Wyoming had the largest exodus in percentage terms. The article also conveniently forgets about strong growth blue states like WA and OR and doesn't mention that NY and CA actually had population growth because of immigration. But yeah blue states are fucked. If doogie had any balls he would relocate from his liberal strong hold to a bible belt red state.
    If you don't think that Washington or Oregon aren't going to have similar problems in 20-30 years when all the liberals that are making a shit ton of money today realize that politicians are coming for their money down the road and decide that being a snow bird living in a state where they aren't going to touch their money ... then I can't fucking help you.
    Washington State has the most regressive tax structure in the country.

    HTH
    Christ. Bookmark this. Hondo and I agree on something totally 100%.

    Property taxes and sales taxes should be slashed to 1/3 of present rates. Institute a third leg of revenue in a moderate income tax and abolish the B&O tax completely.

    Then institute special tax incentive zones/port districts in places like Spokane and Vancouver and Tri-Cities so businesses will relocate there instead of Oregon/Idaho and watch the motherfucking state take off to the stratosphere.

    Hondo doesn't agree with you though

    He wants to keep or raise property and sales and gas taxes while adding a punishing income tax and the BO as well

    Welcome to the Hotel California

    The one thing I have always been proud of Washington voters for is not falling for this ruse.
    The reason I moved back to Washington is I'd rather pay 9% of what I spend then 6% of what I earn.

    HTH
    MikeDamonepawz
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Posts: 12,215
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    No one cares

    So you are lying when you say I want higher taxes. Nice work.
    doogieMikeDamoneCuntWaffle
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Posts: 12,215
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    I said no one cares

    Of course you want higher taxes. That's not even a question.

    Ok!
    MikeDamone
  • salemcoogsalemcoog Posts: 6,653
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    2001400ex said:

    Do you want up compare the productivity unfunded pension liabilities of the top 10 liberal states compared to the top 10 conservative states?

    Doogitup.gif
    $21 BILLLLLLLLIIIIIIOOOONNNN here in Oregon.
  • salemcoogsalemcoog Posts: 6,653
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    RedRocket said:

    Tequilla said:

    RedRocket said:

    doogie said:

    The exodus of residents was most pronounced in New York, which saw about 190,000 people leave the state between July 1, 2016 and July 1, 2017, according to U.S. Census Bureau data released last week.

    But Wyoming had the largest exodus in percentage terms. The article also conveniently forgets about strong growth blue states like WA and OR and doesn't mention that NY and CA actually had population growth because of immigration. But yeah blue states are fucked. If doogie had any balls he would relocate from his liberal strong hold to a bible belt red state.
    If you don't think that Washington or Oregon aren't going to have similar problems in 20-30 years when all the liberals that are making a shit ton of money today realize that politicians are coming for their money down the road and decide that being a snow bird living in a state where they aren't going to touch their money ... then I can't fucking help you.
    Snowbirds would still pay property and sales tax in WA. The rich liberals would have to sell their houses and move entirely but it's not going to happen and it wouldnt matter anyways because there would just be a new post millennial generation that would fill the gap. Only reason this would change is if businesses left WA or OR in droves which I also don't see happening.
    Get outta bed before 10 AM.... and then talk about your generation filling those gaps.


    Baby steps.
    Pitchfork51TierbsHsotBoobsDuckHHunterisafag
  • salemcoogsalemcoog Posts: 6,653
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Tequilla said:

    RedRocket said:

    doogie said:

    The exodus of residents was most pronounced in New York, which saw about 190,000 people leave the state between July 1, 2016 and July 1, 2017, according to U.S. Census Bureau data released last week.

    But Wyoming had the largest exodus in percentage terms. The article also conveniently forgets about strong growth blue states like WA and OR and doesn't mention that NY and CA actually had population growth because of immigration. But yeah blue states are fucked. If doogie had any balls he would relocate from his liberal strong hold to a bible belt red state.
    If you don't think that Washington or Oregon aren't going to have similar problems in 20-30 years when all the liberals that are making a shit ton of money today realize that politicians are coming for their money down the road and decide that being a snow bird living in a state where they aren't going to touch their money ... then I can't fucking help you.
    Washington State has the most regressive tax structure in the country.

    HTH
    Christ. Bookmark this. Hondo and I agree on something totally 100%.

    Property taxes and sales taxes should be slashed to 1/3 of present rates. Institute a third leg of revenue in a moderate income tax and abolish the B&O tax completely.

    Then institute special tax incentive zones/port districts in places like Spokane and Vancouver and Tri-Cities so businesses will relocate there instead of Oregon/Idaho and watch the motherfucking state take off to the stratosphere.

    Hondo doesn't agree with you though

    He wants to keep or raise property and sales and gas taxes while adding a punishing income tax and the BO as well

    Welcome to the Hotel California

    The one thing I have always been proud of Washington voters for is not falling for this ruse.
    The reason I moved back to Washington is I'd rather pay 9% of what I spend then 6% of what I earn.

    HTH
    So no more Buffalo Burgers in Billings?
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Posts: 6,128
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    AZDuck said:

    Let's go to the data:

    Net Migration


      Year ending 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015
    1. Alabama 5,109 5,798 5,152 1,996 3,874
    2. Alaska 1,174 -974 -8,200 -5,355 -2,557
    3. Arizona 45,650 37,820 55,328 63,755 76,405
    4. Arkansas 2,127 1,541 387 2,506 3,530
    5. California 78,532 70,149 97,674 70,495 33,530
    6. Colorado 38,930 45,660 49,443 67,627 60,773
    7. Connecticut -3,715 -2,400 -10,383 -11,500 -12,822
    8. Delaware 5,685 5,656 6,409 6,647 5,583
    9. District of Columbia 9,997 9,665 4,710 7,122 6,392
    10. Florida 206,039 201,302 257,486 328,772 325,986
    11. Georgia 40,950 15,254 46,426 58,625 60,612
    12. Hawaii 5,442 5,991 2,318 1,837 -2,583
    13. Idaho 1,293 6,244 10,585 8,596 18,869
    14. Illinois -47,834 -42,196 -66,273 -73,614 -83,210
    15. Indiana -3,099 9,272 4,002 -4,612 -1,083
    16. Iowa 668 6,197 6,170 2,752 2,944
    17. Kansas 1,124 -6,716 -7,163 -6,596 -12,744
    18. Kentucky 2,868 3,998 1,540 251 3,305
    19. Louisiana 6,238 4,062 1,449 422 -5,020
    20. Maine 719 296 2,410 85 3,954
    21. Maryland 17,329 14,684 9,856 2,566 176
    22. Massachusetts 26,785 32,251 28,522 19,439 15,292
    23. Michigan -13,067 -9,437 -3,993 -15,801 -5,328
    24. Minnesota 3,207 10,176 6,989 1,612 11,882
    25. Mississippi -3,809 -2,160 -6,390 -10,959 -7,467
    26. Missouri -4,828 198 558 -722 2,163
    27. Montana 4,268 6,243 5,328 5,681 7,422
    28. Nebraska 2,996 3,168 1,907 1,470 2,043
    29. Nevada 19,802 19,562 30,773 36,103 41,967
    30. New Hampshire 912 -410 5,007 665 4,362
    31. New Jersey -3,140 -2,387 -6,167 -15,736 -16,704
    32. New Mexico -4,487 -8,358 -11,496 -10,769 -7,111
    33. New York -8,477 -5,525 -43,810 -40,962 -72,889
    34. North Carolina 54,468 57,116 54,435 63,825 80,078
    35. North Dakota 12,480 17,950 10,664 11,419 -4,684
    36. Ohio -20,472 -5,011 766 -11,799 -7,967
    37. Oklahoma 15,322 19,976 11,380 14,866 2,894
    38. Oregon 19,221 14,790 30,220 43,082 56,972
    39. Pennsylvania 11,730 -1,347 -1,535 -10,154 -10,887
    40. Rhode Island -1,248 -1,294 980 210 419
    41. South Carolina 32,487 34,167 45,062 53,376 52,844
    42. South Dakota 5,563 5,786 2,085 643 2,573
    43. Tennessee 36,677 22,233 32,830 31,783 39,959
    44. Texas 214,132 194,268 252,592 266,340 217,542
    45. Utah 4,601 10,952 4,607 14,387 25,412
    46. Vermont -909 241 -402 -1,264 -1,910
    47. Virginia 39,548 32,749 13,788 11,406 7,202
    48. Washington 35,407 36,165 50,252 68,590 91,981
    49. West Virginia 2,423 -1,494 -3,160 -4,878 -6,583
    50. Wisconsin -3,077 -911 -1,060 -7,545 -4,405
    51. Wyoming 5,835 3,012 -2,257 -59 -3,823
    http://www.governing.com/gov-data/census/state-migration-rates-annual-net-migration-by-state.html
    Helps Larry Scott imo
    TierbsHsotBoobs
  • salemcoogsalemcoog Posts: 6,653
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    RedRocket said:

    salemcoog said:

    RedRocket said:

    Tequilla said:

    RedRocket said:

    doogie said:

    The exodus of residents was most pronounced in New York, which saw about 190,000 people leave the state between July 1, 2016 and July 1, 2017, according to U.S. Census Bureau data released last week.

    But Wyoming had the largest exodus in percentage terms. The article also conveniently forgets about strong growth blue states like WA and OR and doesn't mention that NY and CA actually had population growth because of immigration. But yeah blue states are fucked. If doogie had any balls he would relocate from his liberal strong hold to a bible belt red state.
    If you don't think that Washington or Oregon aren't going to have similar problems in 20-30 years when all the liberals that are making a shit ton of money today realize that politicians are coming for their money down the road and decide that being a snow bird living in a state where they aren't going to touch their money ... then I can't fucking help you.
    Snowbirds would still pay property and sales tax in WA. The rich liberals would have to sell their houses and move entirely but it's not going to happen and it wouldnt matter anyways because there would just be a new post millennial generation that would fill the gap. Only reason this would change is if businesses left WA or OR in droves which I also don't see happening.
    Get outta bed before 10 AM.... and then talk about your generation filling those gaps.


    Baby steps.
    Says the recovering meth addict who clearly rolled out of bed at 9:33.
    Yes, Cuz everybody rushes to HH when they get out of bed.

    You didn't go to UW to play deductive reasoning now did you?
    TierbsHsotBoobsoregonblitzkrieg
  • 2001400ex said:

    Tequilla said:

    RedRocket said:

    doogie said:

    The exodus of residents was most pronounced in New York, which saw about 190,000 people leave the state between July 1, 2016 and July 1, 2017, according to U.S. Census Bureau data released last week.

    But Wyoming had the largest exodus in percentage terms. The article also conveniently forgets about strong growth blue states like WA and OR and doesn't mention that NY and CA actually had population growth because of immigration. But yeah blue states are fucked. If doogie had any balls he would relocate from his liberal strong hold to a bible belt red state.
    If you don't think that Washington or Oregon aren't going to have similar problems in 20-30 years when all the liberals that are making a shit ton of money today realize that politicians are coming for their money down the road and decide that being a snow bird living in a state where they aren't going to touch their money ... then I can't fucking help you.
    Washington State has the most regressive tax structure in the country.

    HTH
    Christ. Bookmark this. Hondo and I agree on something totally 100%.

    Property taxes and sales taxes should be slashed to 1/3 of present rates. Institute a third leg of revenue in a moderate income tax and abolish the B&O tax completely.

    Then institute special tax incentive zones/port districts in places like Spokane and Vancouver and Tri-Cities so businesses will relocate there instead of Oregon/Idaho and watch the motherfucking state take off to the stratosphere.

    Hondo doesn't agree with you though

    He wants to keep or raise property and sales and gas taxes while adding a punishing income tax and the BO as well

    Welcome to the Hotel California

    The one thing I have always been proud of Washington voters for is not falling for this ruse.
    Nope- it's my plan or nothing. Decrease property tax rate, decrease sales tax rate, eliminate B&O/excise, moderate income tax with a specified duration and cap on the rates. No sneaky backroom shit.

    Free up regulations on special tax zones and go to fucking town. Ka ching. No more deficit for Cuog.

    TierbsHsotBoobs
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Posts: 27,235
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    2001400ex said:

    Tequilla said:

    RedRocket said:

    doogie said:

    The exodus of residents was most pronounced in New York, which saw about 190,000 people leave the state between July 1, 2016 and July 1, 2017, according to U.S. Census Bureau data released last week.

    But Wyoming had the largest exodus in percentage terms. The article also conveniently forgets about strong growth blue states like WA and OR and doesn't mention that NY and CA actually had population growth because of immigration. But yeah blue states are fucked. If doogie had any balls he would relocate from his liberal strong hold to a bible belt red state.
    If you don't think that Washington or Oregon aren't going to have similar problems in 20-30 years when all the liberals that are making a shit ton of money today realize that politicians are coming for their money down the road and decide that being a snow bird living in a state where they aren't going to touch their money ... then I can't fucking help you.
    Washington State has the most regressive tax structure in the country.

    HTH
    Christ. Bookmark this. Hondo and I agree on something totally 100%.

    Property taxes and sales taxes should be slashed to 1/3 of present rates. Institute a third leg of revenue in a moderate income tax and abolish the B&O tax completely.

    Then institute special tax incentive zones/port districts in places like Spokane and Vancouver and Tri-Cities so businesses will relocate there instead of Oregon/Idaho and watch the motherfucking state take off to the stratosphere.

    Hondo doesn't agree with you though

    He wants to keep or raise property and sales and gas taxes while adding a punishing income tax and the BO as well

    Welcome to the Hotel California

    The one thing I have always been proud of Washington voters for is not falling for this ruse.
    Nope- it's my plan or nothing. Decrease property tax rate, decrease sales tax rate, eliminate B&O/excise, moderate income tax with a specified duration and cap on the rates. No sneaky backroom shit.

    Free up regulations on special tax zones and go to fucking town. Ka ching. No more deficit for Cuog.

    Every time the legislature had an opportunity to do this they said just pass the income tax and trust us on the rest.

    That's why there is no income tax. I agree that your plan is less regressive but you live on the coast. Washington wants to be California. As always

    TierbsHsotBoobs
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    BearsWiin said:

    Everybody stay the hell out of Aptos Modesto. You couldn't afford it anyway




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  • dfleadflea Posts: 2,585
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    salemcoog said:

    RedRocket said:

    salemcoog said:

    RedRocket said:

    Tequilla said:

    RedRocket said:

    doogie said:

    The exodus of residents was most pronounced in New York, which saw about 190,000 people leave the state between July 1, 2016 and July 1, 2017, according to U.S. Census Bureau data released last week.

    But Wyoming had the largest exodus in percentage terms. The article also conveniently forgets about strong growth blue states like WA and OR and doesn't mention that NY and CA actually had population growth because of immigration. But yeah blue states are fucked. If doogie had any balls he would relocate from his liberal strong hold to a bible belt red state.
    If you don't think that Washington or Oregon aren't going to have similar problems in 20-30 years when all the liberals that are making a shit ton of money today realize that politicians are coming for their money down the road and decide that being a snow bird living in a state where they aren't going to touch their money ... then I can't fucking help you.
    Snowbirds would still pay property and sales tax in WA. The rich liberals would have to sell their houses and move entirely but it's not going to happen and it wouldnt matter anyways because there would just be a new post millennial generation that would fill the gap. Only reason this would change is if businesses left WA or OR in droves which I also don't see happening.
    Get outta bed before 10 AM.... and then talk about your generation filling those gaps.


    Baby steps.
    Says the recovering meth addict who clearly rolled out of bed at 9:33.
    Yes, Cuz everybody rushes to HH when they get out of bed.

    You didn't go to UW to play deductive reasoning now did you?
    You didn't go to UW because you're too fucking stupid.

    So fuck yourself.
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