It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!
The only other PAC 12 coach who could do what Leach has done at WSU is Peterman.I believe Pete is the best coach in the league but if his next four years match his first four years (slightly better than Bellotti) I'll be very disappointed.Is Peterman the best coach in this league?Holy quook alert. Pete has a better winning percentage "at major programs" despite winning the same amount of games per year and getting an extra game.To me "Mediocre" is a C. "Good" is a B, and "Excellent" is an A.Bellotti won the Fiesta Bowel, owns 4 10-win seasons, 2 conference titles and beat the best UW team since the 1991 squad.1 outright conference championship and 1/3 of a conference championship in 14 years on the job (11 of those 14 years in a ten team conference) makes him nothing but mediocre.
I know it's fun to call him "Mediocre Mike" around here, but he'd be either the best or second best coach in the league if he were coaching in the PAC now.
He's mediocre compared to Kelly, but so is everyone else in this league and most of college football save Saban or Urbz.
1 top 5 finish in 14 years on the job makes him nothing but mediocre.
1 meaningful bowel win in 14 years makes him nothing but mediocre.
A worse conference winning percentage than Jim Lambright makes him nothing but mediocre.
He's mediocre Mike because he was mediocre.
Best coach in the conference if he was coaching today my ass.
Your better than this.
Coaching in the league kind of sucks right now. There's no Carrolls, Harbaughs, un-burned out Tedfords, kings of Poop Island, or good Dennis Ericksons right now.
Bellotti was a B coach with a couple of B+ years. He got good results from the talent he had, usually overperformed his recruiting, and learned from his mistakes.
At major conference programs, Bellotti and Peterman have averaged about 9 wins per season, and Bellotti did it with one fewer game than Peterman, for the most part.
Bellotti had one losing record in 14 seasons at a program that had finished below .500 in 18 of the previous 30 years before he became head coach.
And Peterman's finished top 25 7 times, same as Iron Mike, over roughly the same amount of tim.
So who in the league would be better? Peterman? Shaw? the Pirate?
Peterman and Shaw are probably better than Iron Mike but not be a super-wide margin, and Shaw is Shaw. We're going to see what Peterman is really made of over the next 2-3 years.
Your narrative sucks harder than your maff.
Oh and they both coached before they were at a major program and Pete > Bellotti there.
If you really think the average of Pete's first four years at UW is the average of what he'll accomplish at UW then sure, he's about Bellotti's level of a mediocre coach.
UW Pete has as many top 5 finishes as Bellotti did in 11 less years.
UW Pete has as many outright conference titles as Bellotti did in 11 years.
Overall Pete has more BCS wins than Bellotti did in two less years (and that's just counting Bellotti at Oregon).
Only a Quook would look at their resumes and say they're on the same level.
Once again, your better than this.
If you believe he is or if he’s in the top 2, AZ isn’t far off in his analysis.
You would have to agree with that. There’s literally no argument.
I'd take David Shaw over Bellotti in a heartbeat.
I don't believe Bellotti could do what Leach has done at WSU.
There's plenty of argument.
Just got into a heated argument with a relatively recent Kewg grad here at work who claimed her team was favored in the Apple Cup because they are "ranked higher than the Huskies". She proceeded to dig in her heals in defense of this claim in spite of my attempts to educate. Apparently, she is not familiar with the practice of odds making and what that entails.Right... Because bitches, and especially young ones, know anything about Football.
Nothing has changed with the Kewgs. Carry on.
@AZDuck was just telling us all about the miracle re-birth of Detroit too.
You can't make an idgaf poast when you've lived on your rivals board all weekend.Seems like you’ve been thinking about it a lot more than I have.No. Just at the possibility of having 4 coaches in 7 years and your post season recruiting Natty dream dying.So now I’m supposed to be worried about black sark leaving?Who do you think will be the interim coach for your Bowl game?So you know what a special feeling it is. I think it’s really gone be somthin else for you guys.Been there, been raped.3-5 league records are specialNot as special as an Alamo Bowl, but not a million miles away either.